need help with attribution on a 1854-O seated Dime.

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deacon2828
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Joined: 29 Jan 2015, 21:28

02 Jan 2017, 20:25 #1

I have tryed to find this piece on The seated dime variety site and could not find it. i first thought it was a F-108-A but the reverse die crack is in a different position. This piece has a die crack just left of "U" in UNITED and one above "E" in AMERICA. i know it is low grade so i hoped the die cracks would help. Thanks for looking.ImageImageImageImageImageImage
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SemikeyCollector
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Joined: 29 Jan 2008, 18:42

03 Jan 2017, 22:52 #2

Hi Deacon,

I'm not sure what this variety this  is either. I have looked on the site also.

One thing I can say is that it is an open '54'- there is space between 5 and 4 in date, so I agree that it can't be
a 108-
a. If the left foot of the one in the date is broken or not, that may help you narrow it.
However the problem still is that the die breaks don't seen to match anything. Maybe you have a die break in common with one of the open date '54' varieties plus the die breaks you've shown. Perhaps this is further die erosion.
I would email Gerry Fortin at  [email protected]  with the picture, if none of this works. Perhaps it is a new variety.

Regards,
Ken
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deacon2828
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Joined: 29 Jan 2015, 21:28

05 Jan 2017, 02:42 #3

I sent gerry an email. so i will wait for his thoughts if he has time !
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deacon2828
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08 Jan 2017, 18:27 #4

deacon2828 wrote:I sent gerry an email. so i will wait for his thoughts if he has time !
Still nothing ??
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John Okerson
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Joined: 12 Jun 2014, 21:54

08 Jan 2017, 22:50 #5

deacon2828 wrote:
deacon2828 wrote:I sent gerry an email. so i will wait for his thoughts if he has time !
Still nothing ??
Remember that he has been at F.U.N. for three days.
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deacon2828
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21 Jan 2017, 19:40 #6

Anyone ??
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yosclimber
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01 Feb 2017, 03:29 #7

Looks like you found a new variety!
I managed to find a high grade (MS-65) example on Heritage Auctions with the same reverse die cracks:
https://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dimes/1 ... Lot-081514

Using Gerry's date and mintmark position metrics, the date is -1R  and mintmark is   [mm C,L],
which does not match any of the existing varieties on Gerry's page
http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date ... arpage.htm
(see photos below).
 Image  Image

Here are your die cracks on the high grade example:
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- Clint
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deacon2828
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01 Feb 2017, 16:59 #8

Lets see if Gerry , has anything to add. I do hope it is a new variety :)
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yosclimber
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02 Feb 2017, 00:40 #9

Yes, of course.  Having a second and high grade example should make it a lot easier for Gerry to assess.

I almost gave up looking on Heritage - I checked all back to 2008 before I found that one, and was starting to feel discouraged.
Sometimes on a low grade example, a scratch will raise one edge, and it will appear like a die crack, so I was afraid that might be happening.
I saw about 4 F-108 examples there while looking.  And lots of Oblique Os.
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deacon2828
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Joined: 29 Jan 2015, 21:28

02 Feb 2017, 01:31 #10

Thank you for your imput. you really are good at research. 
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